tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post5905699283680893794..comments2007-07-24T17:22:26.624-05:00Todd Bolenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06156730661243501832tbolen91@bibleplaces.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-88094577442295074752007-07-24T17:22:00.000-05:002007-07-24T17:22:00.000-05:00Anonymous - the fact that you supplied no evidence and were unwilling to use your name is a poor start. But it's typical of those who advance this argument: assertion substitutes for evidence. Where is the evidence of much human invention? Show me the inscription which suggests that Jeremiah never lived (or anyone in the biblical record). Show me the artifact which suggests that priests wrote the books of Moses in 600 B.C. You can't. There is none. What you can supply is human interpretation of biblical books which suggests that portions were written later (and therefore is less than accurate). But it is interpretation and not evidence, and that is a big difference. A good book on the subject is Provan, Long, and Longman, A Biblical History of Israel.Todd Bolenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06156730661243501832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-77172559551517044432007-07-24T17:11:00.000-05:002007-07-24T17:11:00.000-05:00"My response: there is not a fraction of evidence that it is invented at all."<BR/><BR/>To the contrary, there is plenty of evidence that it includes both some historical fact and much human invention.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-2027439878280789272007-07-19T10:47:00.000-05:002007-07-19T10:47:00.000-05:00One thing I don't like about Blogger is that it doesn't require email addresses, which makes it hard to reply offline. <BR/><BR/>THG - the lists provided here may satisfy your interest, but if not, you can email me directly for my list.<BR/><BR/>Phil - thanks for your blog posts. Unfortunately I haven't had time lately to post more on that discovery, but many other bloggers have.<BR/><BR/>Thanks to everyone else for their input.Todd Bolenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06156730661243501832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-43996983938071658362007-07-13T23:22:00.000-05:002007-07-13T23:22:00.000-05:00Thanks, Todd, for taking all the words right out of my mouth in this post! Would love to be that eloquent, but I know it must come from your extensive knowledge, which I lack!<BR/><BR/>Regarding the lists, see also <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Biblical_figures_identified_in_extra-Biblical_sources" REL="nofollow">Wikipedia's short list of Biblical figures identified in extra-Biblical sources</A>, though Scott's sounds more extensive. Nice job!G.M. Grenahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16715203546886901296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-39750045763831647122007-07-13T09:47:00.000-05:002007-07-13T09:47:00.000-05:00Hi Todd,<BR/><BR/>I thoroughly enjoy your blog--thanks for all the effort you put into it. <BR/><BR/>I was intrigued by your comment about your list of biblical people whose existence is verified from extrabiblical sources. I've been working on such a list for the last few years. Here's what I have so far, compiled from various sources:<BR/><BR/>Bible figures confirmed by archaeology and/or historical records<BR/><BR/>Old Testament<BR/><BR/>Ahab, king of Israel <BR/>Ahaz (Jehoahaz), king of Judah<BR/>Apries (Hophra), pharaoh of Egypt<BR/>Ashurbanipal, king of Assyria <BR/>Azaliah, scribe <BR/>Azariah, grandfather of Ezra<BR/>Baruch, scribe of the prophet Jeremiah<BR/>Balaam, Moabite prophet<BR/>Belshazzar, coregent of Babylon<BR/>Benhadad, king of Aram<BR/>Cyaxares, father of Darius the Mede <BR/>Cyrus II of Persia<BR/>Darius I, king of Persia<BR/>David, king of Israel<BR/>Esarhaddon, king of Assyria<BR/>Evil-merodach, king of Babylon<BR/>Gedaliah, governor of Judah<BR/>Gemariah, scribe <BR/>Geshem, Nabatean dignitary<BR/>Hazael, king of Aram<BR/>Hezekiah, king of Judah<BR/>Hilkiah, high priest <BR/>Hophra, pharaoh of Egypt<BR/>Hoshea, king of Israel<BR/>Jehoiachin, king of Judah<BR/>Jehu, king of Israel<BR/>Jehucal (Jucal), court official<BR/>Jerahmeel, prince of Judah<BR/>Jezebel, wife of king Ahab of Israel<BR/>Johanan, grandson of the high priest Eliashib<BR/>Josiah, king of Judah<BR/>Jotham, king of Judah<BR/>Manasseh, king of Judah<BR/>Menahem, king of Israel<BR/>Merodach-baladan, king of Babylon<BR/>Mesha, king of Moab<BR/>Meshullam, father of Azaliah the scribe<BR/>Nebo-Sarsekim, Babylonian official<BR/>Nebuchadnezzar II, king of Babylon<BR/>Necho, pharaoh of Egypt<BR/>Nergal-sharezer, king of Babylon<BR/>Neriah, father of Baruch the scribe<BR/>Omri, king of Israel<BR/>Pekah, king of Israel<BR/>Rezin, king of Aram<BR/>Sanballat, governor of Samaria <BR/>Sargon II, king of Assyria<BR/>Sennacherib, king of Assyria<BR/>Seraiah, official of Zedekiah<BR/>Shalmaneser III, king of Assyria<BR/>Shalmaneser V, king of Assyria<BR/>Shaphan, father of Gemariah the scribe<BR/>Sharezer, son of Sennacherib<BR/>Shebna, royal steward of Hezekiah<BR/>Shelemiah, father of Jehucal (Jucal)<BR/>Shishak, pharaoh of Egypt<BR/>Tiglath-Pileser III, king of Assyria<BR/>Uzziah, king of Judah<BR/>Taharqa (Tirhakah), pharaoh of Egypt<BR/>Xerxes I, king of Persia<BR/>Zedekiah, king of Judah<BR/><BR/>New Testament<BR/><BR/>Annas, high priest<BR/>Aretas IV, king of Nabateans<BR/>Caesar Augustus, emperor of Rome<BR/>Caiaphas, high priest<BR/>Claudius Caesar, emperor of Rome<BR/>Gallio, proconsul of Achaia<BR/>Herod the Great<BR/>Herod Antipas<BR/>Herod Agrippa I<BR/>Herod Agrippa II<BR/>James, half-brother of Jesus<BR/>Jesus Christ<BR/>John the Baptist<BR/>Nero Caesar, emperor of Rome<BR/>Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea<BR/>Quirinius, governor of Syria<BR/>Sergious Paulus, proconsul of Cyprus<BR/>Tiberius Caesar, emperor of Rome<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Scott Ashley<BR/>Arvada, COScotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06709424560593827714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-17367283271885412542007-07-12T22:54:00.000-05:002007-07-12T22:54:00.000-05:00"On hearing of the discovery yesterday, Geza Vermes, the eminent emeritus professor of Jewish studies at the University of Oxford, <I>said that such a discovery revealed that 'the Biblical story is not altogether invented'."</I><BR/><BR/>I thought that was mildly entertaining. Perhaps Dr. Vermes would enjoy looking at your list as well.<BR/><BR/>Just wanted to thank you, as well, for your lessons on Jerusalem Archaeology. I taught a VBS today to 5-6th graders about Jeremiah 36-39, coincidentally. I shared the "Berechiah, son of Neriah" bulla with the class...they loved it!<BR/><BR/>DavidDavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06374570360503910669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-45449162419540737642007-07-12T13:52:00.000-05:002007-07-12T13:52:00.000-05:00You teased us with the reference to "a list of extrabiblical references to biblical people" that you are not ready to share. So when will you be ready!?<BR/><BR/>I for one would be greatly interested in any part of that list. As a teacher of NT Survey, I would love to have such info for my benefit and the benefit of my students.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work.THGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03167356387094753508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-27768809708363554642007-07-12T09:38:00.000-05:002007-07-12T09:38:00.000-05:00Todd,<BR/><BR/>This does indeed sound like an significant find, not least because it perhaps helps us translate the names in Jeremiah 39:3. I'm surprised there hasn't big more talk about it in the blogsphere.<BR/><BR/>I've blogged a bit on it here:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/07/12/most-important-biblical-archaeological-find-in-100-years/" REL="nofollow">Most Important Biblical Archaeological Find in 100 Years?</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.pastorblog.com/2007/07/11/new-archaeological-evidence-for-the-ot/" REL="nofollow">New Archaeological Evidence for the OT</A><BR/><BR/>I welcome your thoughts.<BR/><BR/>PhilPhilip Gonshttp://www.pastorblog.com/noreply@blogger.com