tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post8675159475692953375..comments2009-10-27T21:11:06.232-05:00Todd Bolenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06156730661243501832tbolen91@bibleplaces.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-69427126984569146912009-10-27T21:11:06.232-05:002009-10-27T21:11:06.232-05:00Ray - the wall is near/under the &quot;northern Hasmonean tower&quot; as in the photo. Yes, it is very high on the slope, but that&#39;s where evidence indicates that it was built. The Babylonian destruction left a lot of rubble on the steep eastern slope and so he built the wall near the top of the slope. The Hasmoneans built the &quot;First Wall&quot; on top of it.Todd Bolenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06156730661243501832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-13985449024653329842009-10-27T08:02:32.080-05:002009-10-27T08:02:32.080-05:00Can I ask you a question?<br />I have just returned from Jerusalem where I made another visit to the City of David excavations.<br />I was looking for Nehemiah’s wall about which there had been much publicity. I don’t know if I saw it. <br />The wall adjacent to the “palace” dig surely is too far up the hill as Nehemiah would have built the wall at the level of the Gihon Spring.<br />Or is it possibly the wall containing large chunks directly above the entrance to Hezekiah’s Tunnel?raybeattiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09810229504682725894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-83202300900491124402009-10-27T07:59:46.721-05:002009-10-27T07:59:46.721-05:00Can I ask you a question?<br />I have just returned from Jerusalem where I made another visit to the City of David excavations.<br />I was looking for Nehemiah’s wall about which there had been much publicity. I don’t know if I saw it. <br />The wall adjacent to the “palace” dig between the 2 towers, surely is too far up the hill as Nehemiah would have built the wall at the level of the Gihon Spring.<br />Or is it possibly the wall containing large chunks directly above the entrance to Hezekiah’s Tunnel?raybeattiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09810229504682725894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-53803314633471409652008-07-21T11:47:00.000-05:002008-07-21T11:47:00.000-05:00I don't think it's unfair to say the stones will speak for themselves. <BR/><BR/>Joshua 24:27christina gavinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04592497449018080146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-38770430924962807412007-11-15T09:08:00.000-06:002007-11-15T09:08:00.000-06:00Shireen - that's a good question. Generally the assumption is that there was some cultic connection, but there is much that is not known. The helpful and reliable PACE website says this:<BR/><BR/>Stager identifies four Persian period strata at the southern end of the tell, including a cemetery with over 800 dog burials—the largest dog cemetery known from antiquity—all apparently hunting dogs. It was first established in the early fifth century and used until the late fourth century BCE. The dogs, buried in shallow graves, all had died a natural death; they were not put to death. While full understanding of these burials has not yet been reached, they seem to have been connected with Phoenician cultic practice (Stager 1991a; Heltzer 1998). <BR/><BR/>Source: http://urltea.com/241zTodd Bolenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06156730661243501832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-86143251112308446482007-11-14T12:53:00.000-06:002007-11-14T12:53:00.000-06:00What significance do dogs have in the Persian period? :D<BR/>Are they simply more than man's best friend or were they worshiped?shireennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-42661599804905577722007-11-14T09:48:00.000-06:002007-11-14T09:48:00.000-06:00Udiyah - because dog burials are typically found in Persian period levels at other sites, it is suggestive that this is the time period of the remains here also.Todd Bolenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06156730661243501832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-10249746095033243202007-11-12T04:34:00.000-06:002007-11-12T04:34:00.000-06:00See also <A HREF="http://drjimwest.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/more-overblown-archaeological-claims-2/#comment-31759" REL="nofollow">my comments</A> at Jim West's blog -Yitzhak Sapirhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10208312193149945171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-65293826407778611242007-11-12T02:16:00.000-06:002007-11-12T02:16:00.000-06:00The photo of the site is exceptional. Thank you for posting it.<BR/><BR/>Hadasah BAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-19970346782360697782007-11-11T17:37:00.000-06:002007-11-11T17:37:00.000-06:00Just a side question: What is the significance of the remains of dogs at these sites?Udiyahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-2017554155261055832007-11-11T11:45:00.000-06:002007-11-11T11:45:00.000-06:00here is a oficial anouncment of the discovery from the biu (hebrew)<BR/><BR/>http://www1.biu.ac.il/File/file_biu_07_11_08_14_56.docAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-13902198720413048062007-11-11T10:10:00.000-06:002007-11-11T10:10:00.000-06:00>I was with a friend who was invited.<BR/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR/><BR/>That's too bad. I was all over the idea of you in a nun's habit, sneeking in with your hidden camera.Al Sandalowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09085294391906426287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-51871117580706143942007-11-10T11:35:00.000-06:002007-11-10T11:35:00.000-06:00Todd you and your readers should take a look at Joe Zias' comments on the subject.<BR/><BR/>http://drjimwest.wordpress.com/2007/11/09/more-overblown-archaeological-claims-2/#comment-31527Jimhttp://drjimwest.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-41531856004001878762007-11-10T07:38:00.000-06:002007-11-10T07:38:00.000-06:00I was with a friend who was invited. It's a fantastic view of the city.Todd Bolenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06156730661243501832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-79964605741236798702007-11-10T02:35:00.000-06:002007-11-10T02:35:00.000-06:00So...Did you have to dress up like a nun and sneek in?Al Sandalowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09085294391906426287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-85711393581171435242007-11-09T20:46:00.000-06:002007-11-09T20:46:00.000-06:00Al - out to get my trade secrets, eh?<BR/><BR/>I took it from the roof of the convent on the "Hill of Offense" above Silwan. Unfortunately the site is not open to the public.Todd Bolenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06156730661243501832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-20570860180979780212007-11-09T17:14:00.000-06:002007-11-09T17:14:00.000-06:00Todd, exactly where did you take the picture you posted from?Al Sandalowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09085294391906426287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-39393981315253254732007-11-09T15:35:00.000-06:002007-11-09T15:35:00.000-06:00Shireen - it takes years for excavations to be published. Whether or not she is excavating the palace of David is a big question that requires more evidence than has been made public thus far.Todd Bolenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06156730661243501832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-52069638772489086682007-11-09T15:25:00.000-06:002007-11-09T15:25:00.000-06:00So Mazar found evidence of walls built in Nehemiah's time, that's cool. Isn't Mazar looking for the Palace of David? Do you think she will find the palace in that location? Has the archaeological excavation material been published yet in the area we got to dig in?Shireenwww.xanga.com/shireenghavaminoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20570989.post-33021339772336377542007-11-09T14:37:00.000-06:002007-11-09T14:37:00.000-06:00The italicized argument for a Persian period date is not very clear or persuasiveh. The evidence of Persian period pottery underneath the tower makes any date after the 5th century possible and so doesn't preclude a Hasmonean date without a corresponding level above to delimit the relative chronological range. There are gaps all over Jerusalem between 7th and 6th century and the 2nd century so a gap is not a persuasive argument in itself.Kenhttp://anduril.ca/noreply@blogger.com